Jul 10, 2026 · 24 min
Employee ownership meets ADHD and Australia’s invention legacy
Ask Us Anything: How do you explain average grades? + Should workers own more of the businesses they help build?
The hosts connect practical career advice with a consequential question about who should benefit when small businesses change hands.
- 1Professional experience can outweigh average academic results, while ADHD and neurodiversity require more nuanced workplace thinking.
- 2Employee ownership transitions offer retiring SME owners an alternative to search funds but depend on financing and credible leadership.
- 3Australia’s invention record spans Wi-Fi, medical technologies, polymer banknotes and flight-safety equipment with global reach.
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The hosts weigh whether an Employee Ownership Trust can give retiring SME owners a viable alternative to a search fund without a ready-made successor.
The brief
Adam Schwab and Adir Shiffman open a listener Q&A that moves from a late-20s listener’s average grades and ADHD diagnosis to business succession and national innovation.
Their career advice is blunt but contextual: academic results matter less after professional experience, while workplaces still need a more informed view of neurodiversity.
Andy Farquharson asks whether an Employee Ownership Trust can replace a search fund for retiring SME owners, prompting discussion of financing and the need for a natural leader.
The final question turns to Australia’s greatest inventions, with Wi-Fi, Cochlear implants, polymer banknotes, the black box flight recorder and spray-on skin in contention.
The episode’s through-line is practical ownership: how people build careers, how workers might share in businesses, and how Australian ideas travel globally.
What was said on this episode
25 statements · 15 positive · 6 negative · 4 neutral
A large share of the population exhibits characteristics associated with ADHD.
“My guess is very seriously, my guess is some massive percentage of the population fits the characteristics of ADHD.”
Listen at 2:19
ADHD can provide advantages when individuals learn to use its characteristics effectively.
“my view on ADHD is largely it's a superpower if you can learn how to utilize it.”
Listen at 2:43
People can now be transparent about having ADHD without major social judgment.
“I think we live in an age where you can be totally transparent about it.”
Listen at 2:49
Diagnostic categories for conditions including ADHD will change substantially over time.
“over time all of these diagnoses are going to change dramatically”
Listen at 3:00
This employer does not request school or university transcripts when hiring.
“we would never ask for a school or university transcript when we're hiring somebody”
Listen at 4:19
Medical and engineering careers require corresponding university degrees.
“you can't become a doctor without doing a medicine degree. You can't become an engineer without doing engineering degrees.”
Listen at 4:59
Smart employers can gain hiring advantages by looking beyond stigmatized neurodiversity labels.
“smart employers see this is a, you remember the Moneyball thing with baseball and football and you're looking for advantages”
Listen at 6:03
Social media contributes substantially to young adults’ increased interest in entrepreneurship.
“I think it's social media has got a lot to do with this.”
Listen at 10:12
Young workers are increasingly rejecting fixed-salary employment without equity ownership.
“that is going through a massive and probably generational transition where young people are not really up for that bargain so much anymore.”
Listen at 11:21
Broad employee-ownership structures can let workers purchase stakes in their existing businesses.
“the bulk of the employees, if they want to, could go and buy a piece of the business that they've worked in”
Listen at 11:49
Employee ownership investments can cause workers to lose both their money and jobs.
“if it doesn't work, people need to realize that it's an investment that carries a chunk of risk and they might lose all their money and their job if it goes badly.”
Listen at 12:47
Vendor financing lets employees repay a selling founder from the business’s future profits.
“vendor financing which is effectively means you pay the founder who's selling down out of profits”
Listen at 13:02
Management buyouts address business succession and leadership problems.
“the MBO solves the issue of succession and leadership”
Listen at 13:43
Businesses benefit when ownership is distributed broadly among employees.
“having as much ownership amongst team is fantastic”
Listen at 13:47
Selling a business to its staff can benefit both founders and employees.
“if you can sell to your staff, that's, that's really a win win.”
Listen at 14:00
The Cochlear implant is an Australian invention.
“The two big ones are cochlear. Obviously that's an Australian invention.”
Listen at 16:35
ResMed’s device is effective for treating sleep apnea.
“The ResMed device, the Australian device, which is great for obviously sleep apnea cure.”
Listen at 16:48
Australia has achieved disproportionately many scientific breakthroughs.
“we've punched above our weight in terms of scientific breakthroughs in Australia for sure.”
Listen at 17:37
Polymer banknotes were invented in Australia.
“the polymer banknotes were invented in Australia.”
Listen at 18:08
Spray-on skin dramatically improves treatment for burn victims.
“effectively invented this kind of spray on skin for burns victims and that is a dramatic improvement in the treatment of burns victims.”
Listen at 18:52
Australia is exceptionally strong in health sciences.
“Australia is astonishingly good at health sciences in particular”
Listen at 19:10
Australia’s commercialization of health and life-science research is immature and weak.
“the commercialization of them in Australia is quite immature and quite poor”
Listen at 19:36
Australia fails to capture substantial health and life-science intellectual-property opportunities.
“we miss a pretty tremendous opportunity to do much more on the IP side of health and life sciences.”
Listen at 19:41
Australia underperforms Israel, the United States, Japan, and Korea in technology.
“probably below our weight in tech, which is obviously compared to what Israel and the US and Japan and Korea have been able to do in tech.”
Listen at 22:03
Australia does not commercialize its scientific research effectively.
“we just do not commercialize it effectively.”
Listen at 22:14
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