Investor's Champion Podcast
Investor's Champion Podcast

Sep 28, 2024 · 22 min

AIM’s standout winners still have room to grow

IC035 AIM Market Success Stories with Further Room to Grow

The discussion tests whether patient, diversified investors can find durable growth and aligned management in a difficult small-cap market.

3 key takeaways
  1. 1Founder ownership and management alignment emerge as recurring features of several successful AIM companies.
  2. 2Time Finance illustrates how valuation, expected earnings growth, and the PEG ratio can reshape a small-cap investment case.
  3. 3Jet2, AB Dynamics, CVS Group, and Raspberry Pi show how patience can outlast changing market conditions.

Don't miss

Jet2’s rise from an AIM company to one of the market’s largest success stories crystallizes the episode’s case for patient investing.

The brief

Chris and Lord Lee frame AIM investing against a difficult small-cap backdrop, including debate over possible changes to business relief and the market’s wider appeal.

U Group, Elixirr, and Phonics anchor the discussion on resilience, international growth, founder-led management, and the importance of meaningful insider ownership.

Time Finance provides the valuation case study: a small, unfashionable lender whose expected earnings growth makes the PEG ratio a useful test of price.

AB Dynamics, CVS Group, and Jet2 show how long-term holdings can compound as businesses scale, while regulation, competition, and reinvestment create continuing risks.

Raspberry Pi’s main-market IPO broadens the lesson: investors need to understand the business, manage expectations, and diversify across several high-quality opportunities.

What was said on this episode

23 statements · 21 positive · 2 mixed

  1. Lord Leeon Successful AIM companiesPositive1:26

    Successful AIM companies can grow substantially while remaining small within large markets.

    “They're operating in vast markets and they could be multiple times their size, still be small constituents of their market. So there's loads of growth still to go for”

    Listen at 1:26

  2. Lord Leeon U GroupPositive3:41

    U Group is valued at approximately nine times forward earnings.

    “It's on a forward PE of just 9 times.”

    Listen at 3:41

  3. Lord Leeon U GroupPositive4:19

    U Group has substantial room to grow from its current energy-market share.

    “And hopefully this business is minuscule. Its market share now has gone from 1.4% to 1.8%. Crikey. It's got a lot of growth to go after. So yeah, U Group, one that people should be looking at.”

    Listen at 4:19

  4. Lord Leeon ElixirrPositive5:22

    Elixirr’s interim pretax profit increased 22 percent to £12 million.

    “Pre-tax profit, these were interims again, up 22% to £12 million.”

    Listen at 5:22

  5. Lord Leeon PhosPositive7:08

    Investors should consider researching Phos.

    “I would recommend other people to look at it”

    Listen at 7:08

  6. Lord Leeon PhosPositive8:46

    Phos has substantial future growth potential through international expansion.

    “But yeah, absolutely fantastic. It ticks a lot of boxes. And a lot of growth to go for now. International expansion.”

    Listen at 8:46

  7. Lord Leeon Time FinancePositive9:21

    Time Finance appears attractively valued.

    “It looks very good value.”

    Listen at 9:21

  8. Lord Leeon Time FinancePositive9:52

    Time Finance’s lending book has increased for thirteen consecutive quarters.

    “13 consecutive quarters where its own lending book has risen.”

    Listen at 9:52

  9. Lord Leeon Time FinancePositive10:27

    Time Finance trades at slightly below ten times earnings.

    “Rating based on PE multiples, just sub-10 times.”

    Listen at 10:27

  10. Lord Leeon Time FinancePositive10:33

    Time Finance’s PEG ratio is approximately 0.5, implying considerable potential growth.

    “the PEG ratio, the price-to-growth ratio is only approximately 0.5. You've got a lot of growth here that could come through”

    Listen at 10:33

  11. Lord Leeon PEG ratioPositive11:22

    Investors should ideally seek companies with PEG ratios below one.

    “one should ideally look at a PEG ratio under 1”

    Listen at 11:22

  12. Lord Leeon AB DynamicsPositive11:49

    AB Dynamics supplies advanced automotive testing and simulation equipment globally.

    “It manufactures advanced testing equipment for the automotive sector. It's expanded into other areas, so it does simulation and it supplies all the big automotive manufacturers around the world in every region.”

    Listen at 11:49

  13. Lord Leeon Elixirr and U GroupPositive13:31

    Elixirr and U Group could become substantially larger in their markets.

    “Elixir could be a lot bigger. U Group, look at, we've already said, look at how big that market is.”

    Listen at 13:31

  14. Lord Leeon CVS GroupMixed14:50

    Investors should remain patient with CVS Group despite current difficulties.

    “We would urge people to be patient. Yeah, it looks bleak at the moment, but this is a good business generating lots of cash”

    Listen at 14:50

  15. Lord Leeon Veterinary-services ownership disclosurePositive15:11

    Veterinary practices should disclose ownership by larger groups more clearly.

    “I think there's got to be greater disclosure, particularly if the practice is owned part of a big group.”

    Listen at 15:11

  16. Lord Leeon Veterinary-services pricing disclosurePositive15:18

    Veterinary providers should clearly disclose prices and available alternatives.

    “Clear disclosure on pricing so that the customer knows, the client knows immediately how much they're going to pay for things and what other options they might have.”

    Listen at 15:18

  17. Lord Leeon Jet2 plcPositive17:39

    Jet2’s efficient capital management enabled strong shareholder returns.

    “it just shows you've got a market where a business that has managed capital efficiently has thrived and delivered huge returns to shareholders.”

    Listen at 17:39

  18. Lord Leeon Founder-led companiesMixed17:59

    Investors should consider following founder-led companies, while recognizing the strategy can fail.

    “And I think if any of the lessons, that's it. Follow the founders, although it doesn't work out all the time.”

    Listen at 17:59

  19. Lord Leeon Long-term investingPositive18:54

    A roughly ten-year investment horizon can produce very strong results.

    “If you've got a long-term time horizon, long-term circa 10 years, you can do incredibly well.”

    Listen at 18:54

  20. Lord Leeon Good businesses versus slow-growth main-market companiesPositive20:03

    Good businesses should outperform slow-growth main-market companies over time.

    “invest in good businesses and they will deliver for you, and they should outperform some of the slow-growth dinosaurs on the main market”

    Listen at 20:03

  21. Lord Leeon Corporate communicationsPositive20:58

    Companies should underpromise and overdeliver when communicating expectations.

    “better to underpromise really overdeliver”

    Listen at 20:58

  22. Lord Leeon ArgentexPositive21:28

    Argentex may recover from its current difficulties.

    “even Argentex, we hope will turn things around.”

    Listen at 21:28

  23. Lord Leeon DiversificationPositive21:34

    Investors should diversify across multiple quality investments.

    “Don't stick all your eggs in one basket. Spread your risk across a lot of good issues and you could do nicely.”

    Listen at 21:34

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