How to Grow Up Without Becoming a Grown-Up

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by Julian Shapiro-Barnum · 2026

A collection of essays drawing on Julian Shapiro-Barnum’s interviews with thousands of children to explore what adults can learn from children’s creativity, wonder, playfulness, and perspective. The book encourages readers to reconnect with those qualities while navigating adulthood.

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1 episode featuring How to Grow Up Without Becoming a Grown-Up

10% Happier with Dan Harris
Julian Shapiro-Barnum makes a case for recovering the proto self
The conversation examines whether adults can become more emotionally honest, spontaneous, and socially open without abandoning adult responsibilities.
Sep 25, 2026 · 47 min

1 episode featuring How to Grow Up Without Becoming a Grown-Up

Julian Shapiro-Barnum makes a case for recovering the proto self