Stock Take
Stock Take

Aug 20, 2026 · 33 min

Telstra and SEEK expose the cost of opaque reporting

Stock Take: The Rant Edition

The discussion argues that weak disclosure can distort investor judgment, while patience and psychological resilience increasingly define the remaining edge.

3 key takeaways
  1. 1Telstra’s shifting segments and adjusted metrics make performance, capital allocation, and dividend sustainability harder to assess.
  2. 2SEEK’s sparse conference-call disclosure and growth-fund results raise questions about management accountability and analyst independence.
  3. 3As information becomes more accessible, long horizons and emotional discipline matter more than merely having more data.

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The hosts connect Telstra’s opaque reporting and SEEK’s weak disclosure to a broader argument that investor access and management accountability remain unresolved.

The brief

John Addis, Nick Cummings and Gaurav Sodhi turn Stock Take into a discussion of finance’s recurring frustrations, beginning with how companies make basic performance questions unnecessarily difficult.

Telstra’s changing segments, omitted revenue details and adjusted metrics become a case study in opaque reporting, with the hosts questioning whether complexity reflects confusion or concealment.

The conversation then targets SEEK’s missing results-call details and growth fund, arguing that weak outcomes can be softened by management language and analysts’ dependence on executive access.

A broader dispute follows: private meetings may produce candour, but public calls, recordings and transcripts give investors a fairer and more complete information set.

The episode’s central investment lesson is that widely available data has not eliminated advantage; patience, time horizon and the ability to withstand volatility still matter.

What was said on this episode

20 statements · 7 positive · 10 negative · 1 mixed · 2 neutral

  1. Nick Cummingson TelstraNegative2:18

    Telstra’s changing business segments make its profit history difficult to analyze.

    “there's this constant shuffle of segments, which makes it difficult to create a time series of profits”

    Listen at 2:18

  2. Nick Cummingson TelstraNeutral3:00

    Telstra’s segment changes reflect genuine internal business reorganization.

    “I think that does reflect sort of genuine internal changes going on in the business”

    Listen at 3:00

  3. Nick Cummingson TelstraNegative4:41

    Telstra’s omission of negative revenue information warrants selling the stock.

    “for me, that is a sell by itself”

    Listen at 4:41

  4. Nick Cummingson TelstraNegative6:00

    Telstra’s cash-earnings metric presents its performance too favorably.

    “these cash earnings, they really flatter the business”

    Listen at 6:00

  5. Statutory earnings better represent Telstra’s profit, while cash earnings matter for dividends.

    “statutory earnings are the true representation of Telstra if you're looking at profit, and cash earnings are really important if you're looking at dividends”

    Listen at 7:12

  6. Nick Cummingson TelstraNegative9:42

    Telstra’s 10-times EV/EBITDA valuation is high for an established low-growth telco.

    “10 times EV to EBITDA is a big number”

    Listen at 9:42

  7. Nick Cummingson TelstraNegative10:11

    Telstra’s debt-funded billion-dollar buyback is an inappropriate capital-allocation decision.

    “to take another billion dollars out to do the buyback, which is completely funded by debt, mind you. It's just not the right move”

    Listen at 10:11

  8. Nick Cummingson TelstraPositive12:23

    Telstra is one of the world’s best mobile operators.

    “this is a globally fantastic mobile business, one of the best mobile operators I've ever seen”

    Listen at 12:23

  9. Gaurav Sodhion SEEKNegative14:15

    SEEK’s conference-call technology remains two decades old.

    “their tech is still 2 decades old”

    Listen at 14:15

  10. Gaurav Sodhion SEEK Growth FundNeutral16:32

    SEEK’s Growth Fund consists mainly of HR and education assets worth about $1.6 billion.

    “the Growth Fund is made up of pretty much human resource and education assets. It's worth about $1.6 billion”

    Listen at 16:32

  11. Gaurav Sodhion SEEK Growth FundNegative17:27

    SEEK’s Growth Fund generated approximately 3% annually over five years.

    “it's 3% per annum”

    Listen at 17:27

  12. John Addison SEEK Growth FundNegative22:22

    SEEK’s CEO incorrectly characterized the Growth Fund’s results as healthy.

    “The fact that he describes those results as very healthy and they're clearly awful”

    Listen at 22:22

  13. Nick Cummingson Private investor meetingsPositive23:05

    Private, unrecorded management meetings produce more candid information.

    “I actually like calls and AGMs that are behind closed doors that are unrecorded”

    Listen at 23:05

  14. Nick Cummingson Investment outperformanceNegative25:01

    Passive investing and technology have made investment outperformance more difficult.

    “It is getting so hard to outperform. Partly because of all this passive money, but also because technology has taken away a lot of the inefficiencies that used to exist.”

    Listen at 25:01

  15. Nick Cummingson Investment edgePositive25:55

    Psychological factors now provide the main investment edge.

    “The edge now is completely psychological”

    Listen at 25:55

  16. Nick Cummingson Consensus stock opinionsPositive26:11

    Finding incorrect consensus views on widely followed stocks can create investment opportunities.

    “The edge is when everyone's looking at a stock, there's a tendency for opinions to herd. And if you can find a herded opinion that's incorrect, that is what I'm looking for now.”

    Listen at 26:11

  17. Gaurav Sodhion Long-term investingPositive27:26

    A longer investment horizon remains one of the biggest available investment advantages.

    “having a longer time frame than a day or 3 months is probably your one of the biggest edges still, still around”

    Listen at 27:26

  18. Nick Cummingson Time arbitragePositive28:10

    Time arbitrage is becoming increasingly important for investors.

    “that advantage is getting more and more important”

    Listen at 28:10

  19. Nick Cummingson Investor psychologyPositive30:32

    Fearlessness about failure is the most important investing attribute.

    “being unafraid of failure is, I think, the single most important part of this game”

    Listen at 30:32

  20. A 3% annual return is unattractive when interest rates are near 5%.

    “3% per annum is not a good return when interest rates are closer to 5%”

    Listen at 32:39

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