
Sep 17, 2026 · 1h 9m
Klein and Taylor map the far right’s apocalyptic alliance
9/17/26: End Times Fascism with Naomi Klein, Astra Taylor
The episode connects authoritarian politics to climate disruption, economic insecurity, technology power, and the struggle to build an alternative.
- 1Republican midterm messaging collides with voter distrust, economic polarization, and the difficulty of defending a party in power.
- 2Klein and Taylor describe religious fundamentalists, technology oligarchs, and ethno-nationalists converging around crisis and scapegoating.
- 3Resistance to data centers could unite left and right constituencies, but leaders must prevent the far right from capturing it.
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Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor connect resistance to data centers with the possibility of a cross-partisan movement against corporate power.
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Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti examine Republican midterm strategy, swing-district messaging, deficits, and the challenge of defending a party in power.
The hosts use Thomas Massie’s challenges to House leadership, including efforts involving impeachment and the Epstein files, to question congressional dysfunction and gerontocracy.
Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor argue that religious fundamentalists, technology oligarchs, and ethno-nationalists are converging amid climate disruption, insecurity, and polarization.
Their sharpest warning centers on AI-driven unemployment and the surveillance state they say technology elites anticipate using to control displaced populations.
The conversation ends with data-center resistance as a possible cross-partisan anti-oligarchy movement—and a contest over whether the left or far right defines it.
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End Times Fascism: And the Fight for the Living World
It develops the interview’s argument about apocalyptic movements, climate disruption, and resistance.
The Shock Doctrine
It offers a related lens on how crises can reshape political and economic power.

No Logo
It extends the critique of corporate power and its effects on public life.
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Astra Taylor
Naomi Klein
Alexander Karp
Donald John Trump
Ted Cruz