Sep 29, 2026 · 1h 56m
Aztec UFO case tests witnesses against physical evidence
16 Alien Bodies Crashed HERE… And We Just Found Evidence
The episode revisits a foundational UFO crash story while acknowledging that one of its most extraordinary physical claims failed modern testing.
- 1The Ramseys assemble witness accounts, site traces, documents, and recovery logistics around the alleged 1948 Aztec crash.
- 2Frank Scully’s account and its later debunking become a case study in disputed evidence, intelligence ties, and possible disinformation.
- 3Testing an alleged iridium artifact found near the site produced no iridium, weakening a central claim without resolving the broader case.
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The brief
Jesse Michels joins Suzanne and Chris Ramsey to revisit the alleged 1948 Aztec crash, where reports describe a 100-foot craft, 16 bodies, and a military recovery.
The investigation weighs witnesses, drag marks, a concrete foundation, military logistics, and a reported cleanup against the possibility that later accounts amplified the original story.
Frank Scully’s Behind the Flying Saucers and its alleged smear campaign move the case from local testimony into a wider dispute over secrecy and disinformation.
The Ramseys test an object found near the crash site after an earlier analysis reportedly found high iridium; new measurements find no iridium at all.
The episode stops short of proving the crash, arguing instead that a hoax label may have discouraged serious scrutiny while extraordinary details remain unconfirmed.
Featuring
Frank Scully
Vannevar BushBooks & mentions
It Came to Earth at Aztec
The Ramseys’ book extends the episode’s investigation through witness interviews, archival records, FBI files, and physical evidence.
Behind the Flying Saucers
Frank Scully’s 1950 book is the foundational public account whose credibility and sources shape the episode’s central dispute.
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